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Some say art is a WIS skill and some say it's an INT skill - it's actually a CON skill, to endure the results.

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Level 12: #8

Chapter: Level 12 — Post-Mortem
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  1. Ashborn
    September 13, 2023, 12:07 pm | # | Reply

    Nah, art is a CHA skill, to convince others it’s art

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    • enderlord99
      September 13, 2023, 12:55 pm | # | Reply

      In d&d, I would expect it to be covered by the “forgery” skill, which is CHA. In PF, I have no idea.

      • Gerusz
        September 14, 2023, 7:19 am | # | Reply

        5e doesn’t have a Forgery skill though. It has various tools that can be used with a number of skills when proficient. Xanathar’s has a blurb on ways to use these tools that make tool proficiencies actually useful (e.g. giving advantage on certain skill checks and listing situations where a tool would be useful, like using carpenter’s tools to build a temporary shelter or the cobbler’s tools to build a hidden compartment in the heel of your boots).

        Drawing would be covered by the painter’s supplies. There is no ability score assigned to it, and the DC for painting an accurate portrait is ridiculously low according to Xanathar’s (DC10). So I think Roxy basically lacks proficiency with them, rolled straight DEX with disadvantage, and, well… see the comic for results.

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        • Mary Catelli
          September 14, 2023, 7:39 pm | # | Reply

          Or Rule of Funny ruled.

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        • enderlord99
          September 20, 2023, 11:48 am | # | Reply

          5e is irrelevant. Technically, all of d&d is irrelevant; thanks once again to Mr Golden for preventing that incident from getting even worse.

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      • Puppeteen
        September 17, 2023, 8:17 am | # | Reply

        Forgery is an INT skill, and would apply to making art forgeries. Craft (painting) is the skill to use, and should also apply to Pathfinder.

  2. Neto
    September 13, 2023, 2:46 pm | # | Reply

    Yeah, learning any art is a battle of attrition and perseverance

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  3. Isenoxyd
    September 13, 2023, 2:57 pm | # | Reply

    Oh no! Another impostor! The REAL Princess would strangle Oozanka right now and damn the odds, but never hide behind the throne!

    • Mary Catelli
      September 13, 2023, 4:05 pm | # | Reply

      The Princess is not the same self-absorbed Princess who beat up mind-controlled bystanders. She has learned something about allies.

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    • Scarlet Knight
      September 14, 2023, 1:01 pm | # | Reply

      She’s a hot slutty cartoon princess…that’s a tentacle. She’s right to hide.

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      • Envisioner Will
        September 19, 2023, 7:26 am | # | Reply

        What evidence have you seen of sluttiness? I seem to recall she’s been pretty faithful to Whitey.

    • Shmitz
      September 15, 2023, 5:20 am | # | Reply

      I’d say you could make a distinction between using the throne as cover and cowering behind it. At least I think her posture says “ready for action” more than “please someone make it go away”.

      • evileeyore
        September 15, 2023, 7:33 pm | # | Reply

        To me her posture says “recovering from a jump scare” and “preparing to restrain oneself from committing murder on one’s allies”.

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  4. Man in the Mists
    September 13, 2023, 3:19 pm | # | Reply

    DEX needs to be involved in art-making.

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    • 627235
      September 14, 2023, 10:29 am | # | Reply

      Naw, in drawing, maybe, but it’s inconsequential for art-making.

      • Man in the Mists
        September 14, 2023, 11:43 am | # | Reply

        Sculptures.

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        • 627235
          November 21, 2023, 8:57 am | # | Reply

          All kinds of artistic crafting, really. Still, to “make art”, the crafting process is rather inconsequential. The important part is to *sell* something as art.

  5. HKMaly
    September 13, 2023, 6:17 pm | # | Reply

    I think the art is quite good.

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  6. Brandon
    September 13, 2023, 9:33 pm | # | Reply

    I’d say art involves all six stats. That’s why it’s appealing to so many people in so many ways.

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  7. WordSarien
    September 14, 2023, 12:37 am | # | Reply

    Speaking of art, I love Roxy’s face in panel 1. I love how her concern, enjoyment, and probably more than a little relief to have everyone back are all showing at once. Everyone’s expressions are really great in this strip, but that one in particular stands out.

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  8. Phat Boltcannon
    September 14, 2023, 6:36 am | # | Reply

    After too many too long arguments about it, our table decided art was a Tool Proficiency check, so it wasn’t tied to one stat. If we feel like being extra spicy, we subtract the result from 20 to set the DC for Insight Checks to understand/interpret the outcome.

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  9. TB Tabby
    September 14, 2023, 6:40 am | # | Reply

    The only other person available was Rukia Kuchiki.

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  10. InsertNameHere
    September 14, 2023, 10:58 am | # | Reply

    Surely you need a psionic character to do a power point presentation?

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    • Mike R.
      September 14, 2023, 11:27 am | # | Reply

      Wow.

      InsertNameHere

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  11. Brandon
    September 14, 2023, 11:39 pm | # | Reply

    Something nagging at me: why didn’t Roxie ever mention the Viscount who gave her the incantation for turning the Creminions against the Princess at the Games? You’d think that would be a major tipoff to the rest as to a potential adversary. Would have been especially handy when she was being blamed and imprisoned.

    • Mary Catelli
      September 15, 2023, 9:36 am | # | Reply

      She felt she was suckered and is embarrassed.

      No one asked.

      Or both.

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      • evileeyore
        September 15, 2023, 7:43 pm | # | Reply

        That was five years ago and she’s forgotten?

  12. Wyvern
    September 15, 2023, 2:55 am | # | Reply

    Typo alert, panel 4: should be “Until SHE tells us otherwise…”

    • Mike R.
      September 15, 2023, 11:13 am | # | Reply

      Fixed, thank you.

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  13. Nic
    September 15, 2023, 4:33 pm | # | Reply

    Oozanka’s practically one of the family already.

    Auntie Dwelluvium.

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  14. LilyTheSmol
    May 27, 2024, 7:28 am | # | Reply

    So, it took me until this page to realize that Oozanka is the reason the attackers had a poison tipped ballista.

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