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Level 12: #4

Chapter: Level 12 — Post-Mortem
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  1. evankh
    August 11, 2023, 5:54 pm | # | Reply

    I was today years old when I realized “creminions” = “cremini” + “minions”. As in the type of mushroom.

    :facepalm:

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    • C T
      August 16, 2023, 1:29 pm | # | Reply

      You should check the Monster Guide (from the About menu at the top of the page).

      • Mary Catelli
        August 17, 2023, 9:37 am | # | Reply

        It’s not entirely correct, though. It refers to gelatinous cubes as “mindless” whereas in the comic itself, we know that of Dorilys, Presti, and Cube, none of them took Int as a dump score.

        • Mary Catelli
          August 17, 2023, 7:48 pm | # | Reply

          (Cube is brainless but not mindless.)

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  2. Envisioner Will
    August 11, 2023, 7:38 pm | # | Reply

    Asking the Princess to promise something impossible probably isn’t going to end well for Dori….

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  3. The1Kobra
    August 11, 2023, 9:26 pm | # | Reply

    I wonder if they’ll resurrect Whitey and Grawlf now that they’ve been fungicided. I suppose if Derek is 13th level, he could in theory do it. We know he’s at least 11th level for the planar ally spell to summon Bigguns.
    (Or if it’s funnier with them around. I liked Grawlf in the games arc.)

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    • Wyvern
      August 12, 2023, 6:28 pm | # | Reply

      Well, if Derek is the same level as the main cast, he just hit 12th level.

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    • terodil
      August 13, 2023, 6:41 pm | # | Reply

      Planar Ally caps out at a normal run-of-the-mill 12 HD Astral Deva. Angelissa, as a deva with class levels, is far beyond that limit (her creator said she reached around level 30, though we don’t know her stats in this strip). So we’re looking at Greater Planar Ally minimum, if not Gate, leaving us with Hyssop at level 15 or 17 respectively. In any case, he would certainly be powerful enough to cast Resurrection.

      Assuming the fungicide works as advertised, Whitey will pose an interesting case. I can’t currently recall why he got turned into an undead and not resurrected in the first place (need to binge the archive again), but we’re looking either at him getting restored to pre-undead state, or at a cooperation with an evil spellcaster to cast Revive Undead. I guess it depends on how autonomous Princess wants him to be. 😉

      • Mary Catelli
        August 14, 2023, 7:36 pm | # | Reply

        He was introduced as undead. I think it was implied that it happened when the Princess was captured.

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    • BadRoad
      August 16, 2023, 2:25 pm | # | Reply

      Remove Disease can usually cure fungal and parasitic infections without killing the patient.

      • terodil
        August 19, 2023, 4:46 am | # | Reply

        Looking at Dr. Grawlf’s and Whitey’s very photogenic crania, I’d say we’re well past the point of ‘remove disease’.

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        • Goth Guru
          August 21, 2023, 11:50 pm | # | Reply

          Remove disease kills and gets rid of parasitic infections, so Whitey will have lost a lot of mass. If “destroyed”, he can then be resurrected, but not simply raised. The corpse might be made whole, then raised, but that’s an extra step.

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  4. Mary Catelli
    August 11, 2023, 9:47 pm | # | Reply

    The Princess still seems to have some fondness toward Whitey.

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    • TB Tabby
      August 12, 2023, 3:28 am | # | Reply

      She keeps bothering to resurrect him, doesn’t she?

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      • Mary Catelli
        August 12, 2023, 10:27 am | # | Reply

        This will be the second time. And the first, she thought she’d get the Knight Wight back.

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        • evileeyore
          August 13, 2023, 4:25 pm | # | Reply

          This calls for someone who can put the romance back in necromance!

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          • Eguzky
            August 13, 2023, 6:12 pm | # | Reply

            Everybody always asks for a necromancer, but there are two other types no one ever asks for:

            The mage who summons candy; The Neccomancer.
            The mage who summons catgirls; The Nekomancer.

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            • Puppeteen
              August 14, 2023, 9:12 pm | # | Reply

              Just two?

              The mage who summons opiates: The Narcomancer.
              The mage who summons hook-and-loop fasteners: The Velcromancer.

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            • Brandon
              August 15, 2023, 2:47 pm | # | Reply

              The mage who enlarges stuff: the Macromancer.
              The mage who shrinks stuff: the Micromancer.

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              • C T
                August 16, 2023, 1:34 pm | # | Reply

                The micromancer cannot cast spells, but will stand behind the mage’s shoulder and will keep telling them that they have the wrong quantities of materials, they should use a different wand, they should position their hands differently for this spell, they should pronounce the spell more clearly, …

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              • Terence McQuillan
                August 17, 2023, 6:42 am | # | Reply

                And the one who gives great hickies – the Neck-romancer.

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            • Atarlost
              August 16, 2023, 7:49 pm | # | Reply

              Common misconception. -mancy refers to divination. A cartomancer reads cards (eg. Tarot divination) or possibly maps if you’re feeling cheeky. A pyromancer sees visions in flames. An oneiromancer interprets dreams. A necromancer consults the spirits of the dead (which usually requires summoning them from the afterlife hence the broader meaning).

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              • Mary Catelli
                August 17, 2023, 9:36 am | # | Reply

                Semantic drift is a wonderful thing. That is the meaning of the root word, not the thing.

                A spectrum of services is not dead, even though specters are.

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                • terodil
                  August 19, 2023, 4:54 am | #

                  Spectres are *un*dead, which poses a significant problem when encountered in the wild.

                  On the other hand, both spectres and spectra of services are incorporeal.

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                • Mary Catelli
                  August 20, 2023, 1:27 pm | #

                  Exactly! Sir Isaac Newton named the spectrum as the disembodied essence of color.

                • Atarlost
                  August 22, 2023, 1:21 pm | #

                  Semantic drift is a horrible thing that should be fought against whenever it appears. We have a perfectly workable Greek root for what you want in -urgy (as in thaumaturgy), but no other Greek root for divination if you abuse -mancy into losing its meaning.

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              • C T
                August 23, 2023, 9:39 am | # | Reply

                To be pedantic, the Greek root in thaumaturgy is not “urgy,” it is erg, “work,” as in “energy.” Thus, “metallurgy” is working metal, and has nothing to do with magic.

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                • C T
                  August 23, 2023, 9:56 am | #

                  On the other hand, “thamato-” is “wonder,” so we could form words like “necrothaumatist” to mean someone who raises the undead. I doubt it will catch on, though.

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  5. Isenoxyd
    August 14, 2023, 9:54 am | # | Reply

    It’s funny that such a sunny smile can evoke so much dread: Rigth now everything seems to be running exactly according to plans for the Marquis – and we know wich masters he serves…

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    • Mary Catelli
      August 16, 2023, 2:49 pm | # | Reply

      If you foiled the villain from the start, where’s the story?

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      • evileeyore
        August 20, 2023, 6:14 pm | # | Reply

        I’m sure someone has written that story… I am pretty sure I’ve never read it though…

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        • Beni-Kujaku
          August 21, 2023, 2:57 am | # | Reply

          You either fight the villain, or win long enough to become one yourself.

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    • Lord Torath
      August 23, 2023, 8:46 am | # | Reply

      I think it’s time to ZoT Malevolous…

  6. Brandon
    August 14, 2023, 3:14 pm | # | Reply

    If Cube can be saturated with chemicals, imagine giving him some household detergent and hiring him to just slide through your home, cleaning the walls and floor.

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    • Envisioner Will
      August 14, 2023, 9:31 pm | # | Reply

      I mean, Gelatinous Cubes are known for cleaning dungeon walls and floors just in general. It’s like the #2 clue that one might be on the prowl, if you notice that the corridors are suspiciously clean. (The #1 clue being if you open a door into a 10x10x10 room and immediately see a skeleton hanging suspended in midair somewhere near the room’s middle.)

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  7. Pilgrim
    August 15, 2023, 6:44 am | # | Reply

    A good lawyer would argue that this is entrapment, but I’m not sure there’s a legal case to be made against envelopment.

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  8. Brandon
    August 16, 2023, 1:19 pm | # | Reply

    R.I.P. White Knight. You put up a great fight. Sadly, you fell to a barrel’s wooden might, much to a Derro dog tamer’s delight. Then you were turned into a fungus, by a doctor who kept his secret among us. Now you’re a pile of bones once again, after a gelatinous cube made you his din-din.

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    • Isenoxyd
      August 17, 2023, 12:26 pm | # | Reply

      The Knight
      He might
      Get better

      Sooner or latter

      (See myself out…)

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  9. Eguzky
    August 16, 2023, 5:27 pm | # | Reply

    You know, I have to ask, because it’s bugged me since last week; Can cubes BE assimilated?
    They don’t have a solid body, nor an actual physical brain, for the spores to take hold in. The spores would just…dissolve, even without the anti-fungal. Cube IS an anti-fungal.

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    • Mary Catelli
      August 18, 2023, 9:28 am | # | Reply

      Why risk it?

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    • evileeyore
      August 18, 2023, 1:54 pm | # | Reply

      Okay, strap in kids… Grandpa Science is gonna try to explain… no that’ll take to long, I’ll sum up:

      In the real world there are no “oozes”, so we don’t have anything like a ‘gelatinous cube’, but slimes are a close kissing cousin. Some slimes used to be classified as fungus, but that taxonomy has undergone some shake up lately, and slimes are now being reclassified away. Can slimes catch a fungus? I can’t find any info on that, but as slimes are single cell organisms, sometimes kinda big ones, and sometimes clustered as a group pretending to be multi-celluer. So I’m geussing a slime could catch a fungus… maybe. I dunno.

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      • evileeyore
        August 20, 2023, 6:19 pm | # | Reply

        Okay, some follow-up:

        Acidophilic fungi can and do live and thrive in highly acid environments, so yes it’s possible that their could be a type of fungi that could infest Cube. However, the creminions haven’t show this tendency so Cube is probably straight up ‘immune’ to them, but no reason not to go in prepared just in case they prepared for Cube.

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