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Critical Missives #47

Chapter: Comic, Level 9 — Hotel Califormian
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  1. SanityOrMadness
    October 16, 2020, 12:20 pm | # | Reply

    I ssussspect the point is that ham is a cured meat, not raw flessh Tiff :p

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    • Milo
      October 16, 2020, 1:38 pm | # | Reply

      Well, the fountain was made of worked stone. Why shouldn’t it turn into cured meat?

      What I’m wondering is if types of stone translate to types of meat consistently enough that a geologist could predict what sort of meat a particular stone would produce without actually trying it.

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      • Verycoolname
        October 16, 2020, 2:36 pm | # | Reply

        Isn’t that dangerous? Can you imagine accidentally eating people meat because you took things for granite?

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      • SanityOrMadness
        October 16, 2020, 2:59 pm | # | Reply

        Nah, if we’re going that route, cured meat would be made from air-dried clay; brick would turn into cooked meat, heavily hydrated stone would turn into fish and pebbles would turn into some form of eggs :p

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        • Centium
          October 16, 2020, 3:06 pm | # | Reply

          deviled eggs

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        • James "Jay" Graham
          October 17, 2020, 12:05 am | # | Reply

          And a garnet-mica schist would become olive-loaf!

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        • Fimbulfambi
          October 18, 2020, 6:11 pm | # | Reply

          I disagree; the spell is after all, ‘Stone to Flesh’, not ‘Inorganic Material to Flesh’. On the other hand, metamorphic rocks such as marble, a favourite for fountains, might well turn into cured meats.

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          • Fimbulfambi
            October 18, 2020, 6:12 pm | # | Reply

            All the more suited since good ham is well-marbled.

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          • SanityOrMadness
            October 20, 2020, 1:41 pm | # | Reply

            If you’re going to take that tack though, the spell is after all, ‘Stone to Flesh’, not ‘Stone to Processed Animal Products’. ???????????

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          • SanityOrMadness
            October 20, 2020, 1:42 pm | # | Reply

            PS: Question marks were supposed to be a shrug emoji, which the comments apparently do not support.

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      • Torn
        October 28, 2020, 9:41 pm | # | Reply

        Of course, one would also need to experiment to determine the reverse: what type of stone would different types of meat turn into? If you cast Flesh to Stone on a pig, will it turn into a different type of stone than a human?

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  2. Dystopianist
    October 16, 2020, 5:33 pm | # | Reply

    Wasn’t YT Yuan-Tisha? Before the WotC legal stupidity, that is. Still, good way to pSyChE past the question.

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    • SanityOrMadness
      October 16, 2020, 7:13 pm | # | Reply

      Tiffany, not Tisha.

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      • CT
        November 11, 2020, 7:51 pm | # | Reply

        Of course it is Yuan-Tiffany. That’s how the “Tiffany-twisted” was included.

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        • idanbhk
          April 8, 2025, 4:21 pm | # | Reply

          Oooooooooooh, that’s genius! How did I not get that?!

    • Milo
      October 17, 2020, 1:18 am | # | Reply

      Originally Yuan-Tiffany. The tooltip text (yeah, I remembered to check it) suggests it’s been retconned into Yvonne-Tiffany, although that’s never been used in actual dialogue.

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      • Mary Catelli
        October 18, 2020, 1:00 pm | # | Reply

        Are YOU going to call her Yvonne-Tiffany in conversation?

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  3. Magic Science Man
    October 16, 2020, 10:19 pm | # | Reply

    My hypothesis on why stone to flesh turned the fountain into hame is because, when used on stone that was not meat before, it turns it into a type of meat that differs based on the stone. In fact, it usually makes it into muscle, not flesh, which is why the fountain turned into ham

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  4. Dreadaxe
    October 17, 2020, 12:05 am | # | Reply

    The difference between ham and human flesh is a matter of perspective. A lamia or a formian may not be as inclined to differentiate between the two as a more humanoid race.

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    • Verycoolname
      October 17, 2020, 2:59 pm | # | Reply

      Maybe, but Antropas ran a hotel. She’d need to know the preferences and taboos of her customers.

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      • Dreadaxe
        October 17, 2020, 11:54 pm | # | Reply

        Oh, definitely, but there was no indication that she thought the ham was going to be served to the customers. Although I have to assume that most civilized races that come together to form a society would agree not to eat each other.

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        • Milo
          October 18, 2020, 12:36 am | # | Reply

          Antropas hasn’t been briefed on that agreement.

          Y.T. probably hadn’t been either, prior to the artifact inverting her nature.

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          • Dreadaxe
            October 18, 2020, 3:42 am | # | Reply

            I figured as much, but didn’t have the evidence ready. Antropas was turning hotel patrons into zombies, so it’s clear that she didn’t have much regard for humanoid life, even if they were her patrons, and I’ll bet Y.T.’s colony didn’t think twice about eating humans before they were changed from evil snake monsters to probably pretty decent snake people. They still might be getting used to it, for all we know.

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  5. hewhosaysfish
    October 17, 2020, 7:31 am | # | Reply

    NPC in my next campaign: a geo-anatomist, casting flesh-to-stone on different rocks and documenting what they turn into.
    He travels the countryside, taking rock samples from a range of locations and circumstances, looking for large-scale patterns.
    He is accompanied on his travels by his loyal gourmet butcher, who has trained to identify a staggering range of meats, both by cut and by species.

    “Further up the valley, the sandstone turned into hippogriff flank, but here it becomes hippogriff *rump*. Whatever could this mean?

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    • MerlinOfTheTower
      October 17, 2020, 4:18 pm | # | Reply

      That sounds awesome! Good luck with the GM’s machinations, and may the God of Natural 20s be on your side. Don’t forget to appease Lord Fumble, Holder of the Critical Fail. 🙂

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    • Fimbulfambi
      October 18, 2020, 6:14 pm | # | Reply

      The real question is what kind of meat you get from casting this on precious stones.

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    • EpicScizor
      October 19, 2020, 3:35 pm | # | Reply

      …. Huh. I already have a PC that does half of that. Geologist druid who travels the country sampling the earth and rock.

      I know what spells I’ll make sure to use next >:)

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  6. Centium
    October 17, 2020, 4:00 pm | # | Reply

    Kinda with Boxworth on this one, mimic flesh is already known for taking on the characteristics of stone objects. would make sense for the reverse ,stone objects becoming mimic, to be a simpler path.

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    • Tsifira
      October 18, 2020, 1:42 pm | # | Reply

      His name is Boxford, not Boxworth.

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      • Centium
        October 19, 2020, 3:17 pm | # | Reply

        how can we be sure when mimic’s are shapeshifters? (also my bad)

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  7. TGY
    October 19, 2020, 11:39 am | # | Reply

    That’sss ssspeciesssisssm, that is!

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  8. Ghostly Clockwork
    October 20, 2020, 3:11 am | # | Reply

    Yours Truly. Now she just needs a skateboard.

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  9. Fortis
    October 20, 2020, 11:17 am | # | Reply

    The fountain became ham purely for the marble well / well marbled pun.

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    • Jaded Cynic
      October 29, 2020, 4:41 pm | # | Reply

      The Law of Narrative Coincidence cannot be ignored or circumvented.

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