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Critical Missives #42

Chapter: Comic, Level 8 — Wait… is he seriously doing a baseball episode?
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  1. Mary Catelli
    November 15, 2019, 9:01 pm | # | Reply

    Dangerous, too. Ma’at weighs your heart in the afterlife.

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    • mucat
      November 17, 2019, 6:02 pm | # | Reply

      I thought Anubis weighed the heart, but the feather he weighed it against belonged to Ma’at.

      (Though according to Neil Gaiman, they cheated a little to give mortals a break. “It was a really heavy feather. We had it made special. You had better be pretty damn evil to tip the scales on that baby.”)

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      • Rock
        November 19, 2019, 4:52 pm | # | Reply

        And the ancient Egyptians themselves had some cheats of their own. There were all sorts of scrolls and tablets and prayers that proclaimed you to be the most righteous of souls.

        In one book I read, set in ancient Egypt, a character asked whether a man who had been buried with all the honours and paperwork really had been that righteous. The answer was that it did not matter whether a man was righteous, but that he had all the spells and paperwork that proclaimed him to be such, for them to get to the nice parts of the Duat.

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        • Mary Catelli
          November 19, 2019, 8:59 pm | # | Reply

          Yeah, but if Ma’at remembers you. . .

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  2. Dakkath
    November 16, 2019, 10:21 am | # | Reply

    Aww, poor Ma’at

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  3. Rock
    November 16, 2019, 10:36 am | # | Reply

    It actually sounds rather sensible, and less likely to cause a godswar than some other systems.

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    • Jaded Cynic
      November 17, 2019, 7:17 pm | # | Reply

      Exactly; I’d totally sign up for this plan, to be honest.

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  4. Rock
    November 16, 2019, 1:49 pm | # | Reply

    I wonder: how do LLCs handle conflicts between their constituents’ alignments and personal agendas? Can Clerics choose freely from among their domains?

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    • SanityOrMadness
      November 16, 2019, 8:37 pm | # | Reply

      If only one god matches the alignment, they take responsibility for them.

      If two or more gods share the alignment, they share the responsibility (as described).

      If no god matches the alignment, but at least one god is within one alignment step, the “nearby” god(s) take responisibility as above.

      If no god is within one alignment step, they cannot be granted spells (to pick an obvious example, no-one who worships Chaos can have a Lawful alignment and get spells, since only Chaotic gods are involved).

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      • Rock
        November 17, 2019, 2:56 am | # | Reply

        Cool.
        What about alignment clashes between the deities within the LLCs, though?

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        • Arcane Howitzer
          November 17, 2019, 8:44 am | # | Reply

          I would think that the individual deities in the LLCs can deny personal involvement with worshipers who are particularly offensive to their sensibilities. So someone who worships War for the “Rape, Kill, Pillage and burn” aspects won’t be getting spells from or supplying faith to any War Gods of Honor, Discipline or Mercy.

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          • Rock
            November 19, 2019, 4:48 pm | # | Reply

            Okay, cool. But I meant more, “How do the deities handle problems that arise because they, the deities themselves, operate the same LLC but have opposing alignments”?
            Because it seems to me that mortals might actually have a slightly easier time of dealing with such problems, since they – unlike the deities – are not their alignment brought to life.

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          • Betonhaus
            October 20, 2020, 1:35 am | # | Reply

            I think the individual gods are simply not required to honor request they don’t agree with, but are blocked from punishing worshipers that violate their requirements. At best they can push to get that worshiper’s agreement terminated.

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        • TGY
          November 19, 2019, 9:57 am | # | Reply

          Chaotic Stupid generally wins the most acolytes.

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          • Envisioner Will
            March 12, 2023, 5:27 pm | # | Reply

            Yes but they keep dying off as fast as they can pop new ones out. Lawful Smart is best at making efficient use of a regular supply.

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  5. thorr-kan
    November 17, 2019, 2:31 pm | # | Reply

    That’s…an interesting take on a fantasy religion for RPGs. I need to think about this.

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    • Mary Catelli
      November 17, 2019, 4:10 pm | # | Reply

      RPG religions and gods are generally badly designed beyond the usual poor world-building of RPGs.

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      • Rock
        November 19, 2019, 4:49 pm | # | Reply

        Personally, I rather like the concept of the Dragonstar setting’s Unification Church.

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      • Ilmari
        December 20, 2022, 6:35 pm | # | Reply

        Yep! And the obsession with having everyone pick a single deity from the multitude as a focus of their worship is a hilariously innacurate monotheistic intrusion on polytheistic religions.

        Usually, when you have many gods, you offer your worship/direct your requests to the one whose particular domain you need in the moment. Also, historically, deities’ domains are typically very broad, varied, and vague.

        I’m also a bit mystified by the typical good/evil god divisions. Having a god particularly associated with negative concepts is quite ordinary, but a whole pantheon of them? And “good” gods just… don’t typically exist. That’s why you always are begging and bribing them to be good to you, in the moment.

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  6. Beni Kujaku
    July 31, 2021, 7:56 am | # | Reply

    You know, worshipping an ideal is in fact kind of optimized for most practicioners of divine magic

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