Wait, I thought the wraith knocked it into the royal box, not an elf.
And is the princess the actual ruler, or one of her parents? Regicide would be killing the regent. Our bard needs to brush up on her legal terminology.
No, it was definitively the fungus pitcher who attempted princess-killing.
The wraiths just kept standing around, utterly flabbergasted. Mayhem was happening and they didn’t cause it.
Re: regicide.
(put on pseudo-scholarly cap)
1 – it’s definitively about killing the ruler of a kingdom (etymology from latin rex, regis), so king, queen, whatever…
In theory*, killing the regent is not regicide, as he/she is just managing things for a too-young king/queen. Like killing a prime minister instead of a president.
OTOH, killing a crowned prince/princess may qualify. Maybe.
* I’ll admit, historically, more than a few regents were behaving like they were the king. They usually met a ghastly end. Even then, that was not considered regicide. Well, notably because the coming-of-age young king was the one who usually ordered the end.
2 – the realm of this setting may be a principality (ruled by someone with the title of Prince/Princess, à la Monaco), or it could be the personal landing of the Princess, as the designated heir, set inside the kingdom of her parents (see Wales or Dauphiné). Either way, the Princess has be seen taking a close hand in state affairs (in the Music with Cube in story arc), which would suggest she is a recognized ruler and not just in-waiting.
tl;dr: I don’t think the Princess, as the local ruler, will worry about terminology.
The broad definition is actually just the intentional killing of a monarch or person of royalty so yes, regicide would still work. There is a more specific definition in the British tradition that refers to the judicial execution of specifically a king after a trial so even a queen would be exempt but that’s a pretty narrow and thus far less common definition. And actually there’s an even broader definition that can apply the word to the killing of an emperor or ANY other reigning sovereign.
Now as far as being the actual ruler, it can depend on the nation and situation. In some rare cases/places I believe a prince or princess retains that title even if they’re the official ruler. I think it depends on marriage usually but I’m not sure. It could also be the current king and/or queen is bedridden or otherwise indisposed, or even perhaps missing but without proof of death leaving the princess in charge while still TECHNICALLY not the queen.
And even if she isn’t the ruler, most princesses carry some pretty powerful influence all on their own- which this one certainly does either way lol.
I like to think she keeps a king and/or queen around to handle the boring administrative/figurehead stuff, with the understanding that they are to make sure the kingdom runs well enough that she can party and adventure whenever she wants and they stay out of her way.
As the king and/or queen would be her parent(s), it may be more a case of them foisting the hard work off on her while they exist in semi-retired splendor. It’d explain her sour attitude. 😉
This is clearly lese majeste at the least – trying to kill an heir apparent or heir is about as insulting as one can be. Indifference to one’s part in that and the attempt itself also qualifies.
If the Princess is the ruler (which does appear to be the case here), then this would qualify as attempted regicide.
Why doesn’t Roxy immediately say that it was the Viscount who told her to read aloud what he wrote? Surely she has realized she’s been tricked. The guy already has a bad reputation (Malevolus knew about him) so she might get the Royal Sage to believe her.
Also Roxy’s a bard, and thus realises that narrative causality insists she not give this information so it can become a plot point later on (Elan would be proud Roxy, Banjo bless you 🙂 ).
It wouldn’t surprise me if Roxy has already forgotten about The Viscount, since she (Roxy) has already forgotten about her (The Viscount). If I remember right, Roxy didn’t know who she was. She’ll probably overhear “The Viscount” at a more dramatically appropriate time (As DaveM said, she’ll pull an Elan)
Bard usually means high Charisma but not necessarily high Wisdom or Intelligence (Roxy does seem to have good INT, so this is probably a failedWIS roll).
So, “A princess contests with wild fun guys (aka wild fungi)” has been fulfilled. (by the way fungi is already plural, fun guys {fungis}is poor grammar).
Now “Words from a chest a champion decreed” I’m guessing that the words of Mimic, not Derek will be the ones to return Maddies mojo back to the full upright and locked position.
Okay, minor detail, but I have to say it: Those bars are not able to hold either elf imprisoned, they’re at best as much use as a waist-high fence or chain.
With personnel of Derek’s level running the jail, those cages may be more than simple stone and iron. And even if they’re not, there may be guards – the kind who would step on anyone trying to leave without permission.
OK, two elves who dislike each other need to wprk together to escape. Is this a jail-buddy comedy like “Stir Crazy”, a jail buddy musical like “Chicago” or just a jail elf -ploitation story that has to cut some scenes to keep its “R” rating?
They’re not really the thing holding them in, though. That’s the wrath of the Princess; they were PUT in here to quit causing mischief, so the games could get started up again.
And they had better STAY in there, unless they REALLY want to get punished for it.
The Princess is not a “law and order” type of ruler. Rather, she is the “don’t annoy me” type.
Both Roxy and the elf team leader broke that rule pretty badly together. But still, putting them together in the same cell? Harsh punishment! (I also feel bad for the guards who have to hear them bickering).
Seems like that was pretty well established when the Viscount gave her the inscription–his strategy was to play on her insecurity at not being authentically versed in Elvish culture.
Yes, the Princess is precisely the sort of person who demonstrates (by HARSH example) that it’s sometimes best to stay “UNDER the radar” of those who wield power.
Maybe she’s using the generic definition instead of the magical term.
illusion-
noun
1. something that deceives by producing a false or misleading impression of reality.
Princess! Is this the way to treat an old sister-in-arms?! Have you forgotten Level 4, page 14 and 20? (Actually, I did, until my bi-annual re-reading).
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That catcher’s outfit is appropriate. She’s doing a good job catching my hate.
Thats probably the ears, because elf. Its okay to hate them.
What about Roxie? She’s an Elf.
It’s okay. It’s not mandatory.
It’s okay to hate Bards too.
They know what they did.
I picture the pitcher’s voice as a bit nasally. Big nose, obnoxious attitude.
Wait, I thought the wraith knocked it into the royal box, not an elf.
And is the princess the actual ruler, or one of her parents? Regicide would be killing the regent. Our bard needs to brush up on her legal terminology.
No, it was definitively the fungus pitcher who attempted princess-killing.
The wraiths just kept standing around, utterly flabbergasted. Mayhem was happening and they didn’t cause it.
Re: regicide.
(put on pseudo-scholarly cap)
1 – it’s definitively about killing the ruler of a kingdom (etymology from latin rex, regis), so king, queen, whatever…
In theory*, killing the regent is not regicide, as he/she is just managing things for a too-young king/queen. Like killing a prime minister instead of a president.
OTOH, killing a crowned prince/princess may qualify. Maybe.
* I’ll admit, historically, more than a few regents were behaving like they were the king. They usually met a ghastly end. Even then, that was not considered regicide. Well, notably because the coming-of-age young king was the one who usually ordered the end.
2 – the realm of this setting may be a principality (ruled by someone with the title of Prince/Princess, à la Monaco), or it could be the personal landing of the Princess, as the designated heir, set inside the kingdom of her parents (see Wales or Dauphiné). Either way, the Princess has be seen taking a close hand in state affairs (in the Music with Cube in story arc), which would suggest she is a recognized ruler and not just in-waiting.
tl;dr: I don’t think the Princess, as the local ruler, will worry about terminology.
/cap
The broad definition is actually just the intentional killing of a monarch or person of royalty so yes, regicide would still work. There is a more specific definition in the British tradition that refers to the judicial execution of specifically a king after a trial so even a queen would be exempt but that’s a pretty narrow and thus far less common definition. And actually there’s an even broader definition that can apply the word to the killing of an emperor or ANY other reigning sovereign.
Now as far as being the actual ruler, it can depend on the nation and situation. In some rare cases/places I believe a prince or princess retains that title even if they’re the official ruler. I think it depends on marriage usually but I’m not sure. It could also be the current king and/or queen is bedridden or otherwise indisposed, or even perhaps missing but without proof of death leaving the princess in charge while still TECHNICALLY not the queen.
And even if she isn’t the ruler, most princesses carry some pretty powerful influence all on their own- which this one certainly does either way lol.
While her title might not strictly imply it, I think it’s clear to all that the Princess is very much in charge, and answerable to nobody.
I like to think she keeps a king and/or queen around to handle the boring administrative/figurehead stuff, with the understanding that they are to make sure the kingdom runs well enough that she can party and adventure whenever she wants and they stay out of her way.
As the king and/or queen would be her parent(s), it may be more a case of them foisting the hard work off on her while they exist in semi-retired splendor. It’d explain her sour attitude. 😉
It’s quite possible that this is a principality and she’s a sovereign princess.
^This. Simple answer. Wonderful to see someone who knows their stuff!
This is clearly lese majeste at the least – trying to kill an heir apparent or heir is about as insulting as one can be. Indifference to one’s part in that and the attempt itself also qualifies.
If the Princess is the ruler (which does appear to be the case here), then this would qualify as attempted regicide.
Why doesn’t Roxy immediately say that it was the Viscount who told her to read aloud what he wrote? Surely she has realized she’s been tricked. The guy already has a bad reputation (Malevolus knew about him) so she might get the Royal Sage to believe her.
She knows the princess well enough to know that she doesn’t care about finger pointing, hence the last panel.
Also Roxy’s a bard, and thus realises that narrative causality insists she not give this information so it can become a plot point later on (Elan would be proud Roxy, Banjo bless you 🙂 ).
The presence of a strong cult dedicated to Banjo/Banjulhu in this kingdom would explain a lot. 😉
That it would!
It wouldn’t surprise me if Roxy has already forgotten about The Viscount, since she (Roxy) has already forgotten about her (The Viscount). If I remember right, Roxy didn’t know who she was. She’ll probably overhear “The Viscount” at a more dramatically appropriate time (As DaveM said, she’ll pull an Elan)
Um…you know the Viscount is a “he”, right? Otherwise “she” would be a Viscountess.
Bard usually means high Charisma but not necessarily high Wisdom or Intelligence (Roxy does seem to have good INT, so this is probably a failedWIS roll).
At the VERY least, have the handwriting examined, & compared with the Viscount’s signature.
Thinking about Derek’s prophesy.
So, “A princess contests with wild fun guys (aka wild fungi)” has been fulfilled. (by the way fungi is already plural, fun guys {fungis}is poor grammar).
Now “Words from a chest a champion decreed” I’m guessing that the words of Mimic, not Derek will be the ones to return Maddies mojo back to the full upright and locked position.
Either that or Mimic takes over announcing for The Games and is the one to declare the winners.
Okay, minor detail, but I have to say it: Those bars are not able to hold either elf imprisoned, they’re at best as much use as a waist-high fence or chain.
With personnel of Derek’s level running the jail, those cages may be more than simple stone and iron. And even if they’re not, there may be guards – the kind who would step on anyone trying to leave without permission.
Hopefully they are not using the Doors as guards.
One Door (Morrison) is dead, Jim.
[URL=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WidelySpacedJailBars]Widely Spaced Jail Bars[/URL] is quite the common trope in drawn media.
Simply put, it aims at not obscuring the character with the bars, verisimilitude be damned.
And waist-high fences are impassable, so I’m not sure what your point is.
OK, two elves who dislike each other need to wprk together to escape. Is this a jail-buddy comedy like “Stir Crazy”, a jail buddy musical like “Chicago” or just a jail elf -ploitation story that has to cut some scenes to keep its “R” rating?
They’re not really the thing holding them in, though. That’s the wrath of the Princess; they were PUT in here to quit causing mischief, so the games could get started up again.
And they had better STAY in there, unless they REALLY want to get punished for it.
They’re already pun-ished!
What, you expect them to move sideways? They’re not crabs, friend!
😛
The Princess is not a “law and order” type of ruler. Rather, she is the “don’t annoy me” type.
Both Roxy and the elf team leader broke that rule pretty badly together. But still, putting them together in the same cell? Harsh punishment! (I also feel bad for the guards who have to hear them bickering).
My guess would be more the “If I ain’t drunk, I ain’t happy” type.
Half the Elves in that dungeon cell deserve to be there.
And I am not talking about the half that is known as Roxanne Casbaugh…
Wow, not a single comment about Roxie not knowing enough elvish to recognize that the words weren’t elvish.
Having grown up as part of Robespierre’s clan, it’s a miracle she knows basic grammatic structure.
She even uses personal pronouns!
Seems like that was pretty well established when the Viscount gave her the inscription–his strategy was to play on her insecurity at not being authentically versed in Elvish culture.
And the moral is: There are some people you do not want to annoy, for they do not need the law to put you in jail.
Yes, the Princess is precisely the sort of person who demonstrates (by HARSH example) that it’s sometimes best to stay “UNDER the radar” of those who wield power.
So what kind of illusions is the elf captain refering to??? It looked like the fungi were ripping apart their elf costume skins.
Maybe she’s using the generic definition instead of the magical term.
illusion-
noun
1. something that deceives by producing a false or misleading impression of reality.
Ifind the catcher cuter, more enjoyable to read, and way more loveable than Roxy.
On the other hand, I really love women with big noses
Regicide is defined by the surviving royalty.
Princess! Is this the way to treat an old sister-in-arms?! Have you forgotten Level 4, page 14 and 20? (Actually, I did, until my bi-annual re-reading).